How are Hinduism and Sikhism related, considering they both originated in Punjab, India?

— Kabir, III.2, Translated by Rabindranath Tagore

Again we see that the originator of this Sant Sampraday himself talks about Brahman even in Gurbani.

then who is there to know what happens without?

What is one small habit that has transformed your life in unexpected ways?

But we have actually seen how much Kabir is also rooted in the Vedantic concept of “supreme realization” but in a non-mainstream path.

NOW…

The Word of the Guru's Shabad eradicates the karma of millions of past actions. ||3||1||

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ਤਜੀ ਲੇ ਬਨਾਰਸ ਮਤਿ ਭਈ ਥੋਰੀ ॥੧॥ ਰਹਾਉ ॥

Because in my previous life, I did not practice penance and intense meditation. ||1||

CONCLUSION:

What do you like about McDonald's?

So in the same spirit Kabir finds pilgrimages to holy cities futile as his mind is fixated on Rama!

Where millions of Vishnus bow their heads, where millions of Brahmas are reading the Vedas,

Raamaanand's Lord and Master is the All-pervading Lord God.

Why does my girlfriend keep asking me if I love her?

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Gauree, Kabeer Jee, Panch-Padas:

ਤਬ ਲਗੁ ਹੋਇ ਨਹੀ ਚਰਨ ਨਿਵਾਸੁ ॥੩॥

Has anyone ever had sex with their cousin? How did it start, and would you do it again?

ਘਸਿ ਚੰਦਨ ਚੋਆ ਬਹੁ ਸੁਗੰਧ ॥

ਪੂਜਨ ਚਾਲੀ ਬ੍ਰਹਮ ਠਾਇ ॥

To him who is high-minded, these teachings will be illuminating.

Is there a possibility that we are living in a simulation and that there is a concept of rebirth?

Bhagat Kabir ji / Raag Gauri / / Guru Granth Sahib ji - Ang 325

Sikhism is a NIRGUN path descending from the Sant Sampraday of Ramanandacharya and traces its ideas to VEDANTA!

The divergence of Kabir’s views from Vedanta is seen in the fact that he fully opposed religious symbolism of ALL KINDS and not just IDOLS.

Where did the false claim that Haitian immigrants are eating pets come from?

I ground up sandalwood, along with several fragrant oils.

ੴ ਸਤਿਗੁਰ ਪ੍ਰਸਾਦਿ ॥

We can see that great saints like Kabir and Ravidas etc… descended from the Ramananda sampradaya which is still the largest ascetic order in India.

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Let's look at the views of Sant Kabir

ਮਰਤੀ ਬਾਰ ਮਗਹਰਿ ਉਠਿ ਆਇਆ ॥੨॥

Kabeer: O worthless mortal, do not lose the Naam, the Name of the Lord.

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Where should I go? My home is filled with bliss.

The young and the old drink milk pudding, but these fools eat the cow's body.

ਬੇਦ ਪੁਰਾਨ ਸਭ ਦੇਖੇ ਜੋਇ ॥

What's a joke you haven't used yet, but are dying to share?

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We have searched the turaki Dharam (Turk's religion, Islam), these teachers throw many thunderbolts,

ਕਹੁ ਕਬੀਰ ਇਹੁ ਕੀਆ ਵਖਾਨਾ ॥

There is a reason why I mention ROOTED and thus NOT implying that it belongs to one of the numerous sects in Sanatana Dharma like Shaivism, Vaishnavism, Shaktism, Smartism etc…

Bhagat Kabir ji / Raag Sriraag / / Guru Granth Sahib ji - Ang 92

Now that my time to die has come, I have come to dwell at Magahar! ||3||

That Kabeer died chanting the Lord's Name. ||5||15||

ਜਹਾ ਜਾਈਐ ਤਹ ਜਲ ਪਖਾਨ ॥

ਕਹੁ ਗੁਰ ਗਜ ਸਿਵ ਸਭੁ ਕੋ ਜਾਨੈ ॥

I am not a Hindu, nor am I a Muslim.

Sant Kabir was staunchly against cow slaughter.

ਪੂਜਾ ਕਰਉ ਨ ਨਿਵਾਜ ਗੁਜਾਰਉ ॥

ਸਗਲ ਜਨਮੁ ਸਿਵ ਪੁਰੀ ਗਵਾਇਆ ॥

Raamaanand Jee, First House:

Here ਨਿਰਗੁਣ is Nirgun and not just lord. This is just another example to show that Kabir himself continued in the NIRGUN BHAKTI path.

ਗੁਰ ਕਾ ਸਬਦੁ ਕਾਟੈ ਕੋਟਿ ਕਰਮ ॥੩॥੧॥

There is my Lord self-revealed, and the scent of sandal and flowers dwells in those deeps.

Kabir is the child of Allah and of Ram: He is my Guru, He is my Pir.

These morons know nothing, they wander about in ignorance,

At the time of my death, I moved to Magahar. ||2||

Ravidas (a chamar shoemaker)

The views of Kabir are very much in parallel to the Advaita philosophy and it is obvious that as the disciple of Ramanandacharya he will carry forward with his chosen NIRGUN BHAKTI.

He does not dwell at the Lord's Feet. ||3||

Says Kabeer, the Guru and Ganaysha and Shiva all know

I do not make pilgrimages to Mecca, nor do I worship at Hindu sacred shrines.

ਰਾਮਾਨੰਦ ਸੁਆਮੀ ਰਮਤ ਬ੍ਰਹਮ ॥

ਪੂਰਬ ਜਨਮ ਹਉ ਤਪ ਕਾ ਹੀਨਾ ॥੧॥

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ਮਰਨੁ ਭਇਆ ਮਗਹਰ ਕੀ ਬਾਸੀ ॥੩॥

I serve the One Lord, and not any other. ||2||

Where millions of Shivas are lost in contemplation, where millions of Indras dwell in the sky,

Meeting with the Guru, my Spiritual Teacher, I realize God, my Lord and Master. ||5||3||

Says Kabeer, unto whom should I tell this?

ਮੇਰਾ ਚਿਤੁ ਨ ਚਲੈ ਮਨੁ ਭਇਓ ਪੰਗੁ ॥੧॥ ਰਹਾਉ ॥

ਨਾ ਹਮ ਹਿੰਦੂ ਨ ਮੁਸਲਮਾਨ ॥

There, where millions of Krishnas stand with hands folded,

Ramanandacharya was a 14th-century Hindu Vaishnava devotional poet saint who amalgamated Advaita with Vaishnava Bhakti. He was the pioneer in validating NIRGUN and SAGUN Bhakti as parallel paths.

ਏਕੋ ਸੇਵੀ ਅਵਰੁ ਨ ਦੂਜਾ ॥੨॥

Where spring, the lord of seasons reigneth, there the unstruck music sounds of itself,

ਜਿਉ ਜਲ ਛੋਡਿ ਬਾਹਰਿ ਭਇਓ ਮੀਨਾ ॥

Now tell me, Lord, what will my condition be?

The Saadh Sangat, the Company of the Holy, is heaven. ||4||10||

Bhagat Kabir ji / Raag Gauri / / Guru Granth Sahib ji - Ang 325

I am a sacrifice to You, O my True Guru.

ਤੂ ਪੂਰਿ ਰਹਿਓ ਹੈ ਸਭ ਸਮਾਨ ॥

As long as the mind is filled with the desire for heaven,

My body and breath of life belong to Allah - to Raam - the God of both. ||4||

Says Kabeer, this is what I say:

यस्य देवे परा भक्तिः यथा देवे तथा गुरौ । तस्यैते कथिता ह्यर्थाः प्रकाशन्ते महात्मनः प्रकाशन्ते महात्मन इति ।

If Ram be within the image which you find upon your pilgrimage,

I have searched through all the Vedas and the Puraanas.

All the men and women of the world are His living forms.

Sain (a barber)

Now here in this verse

ਨਾ ਹਮ ਹਿੰਦੂ ਨ ਮੁਸਲਮਾਨ ॥

You have cut through all my confusion and doubt.

Actually, this part of the Ang 326 is widely used by McSikhs to show that Sikhism considers Hindu pilgrimages as useless and thus drives home the point again that the “religion” has got NOTHING to do with Hinduism.

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Without looking into one's heart, how can one reach paradise?

For many years, I practiced penance and intense meditation at Kaashi;

ਏਕ ਦਿਵਸ ਮਨ ਭਈ ਉਮੰਗ ॥

ਜਿਨਿ ਸਕਲ ਬਿਕਲ ਭ੍ਰਮ ਕਾਟੇ ਮੋਰ ॥

I do not perform Hindu worship services, nor do I offer the Muslim prayers.

Shvetashvatara Upanishad (6.23)

Sikhism is fundamentally rooted in BHAKTI tradition and thus ultimately in Sanatana Dharma. There is no doubt about it despite what modern McSikh acrobatics try to claim otherwise

ਮੁਆ ਕਬੀਰੁ ਰਮਤ ਸ੍ਰੀ ਰਾਮੈ ॥੫॥੧੫॥

He accepted even women (Sursuri and Padywati) as disciples. Bhagat Pipa and Dhanna were Rajput and Jat who were also his disciples.

ਅਲਹ ਰਾਮ ਕੇ ਪਿੰਡੁ ਪਰਾਨ ॥੪॥

ਓਛੀ ਭਗਤਿ ਕੈਸੇ ਉਤਰਸਿ ਪਾਰੀ ॥੪॥

For a superficial McSikh who is interested only in separation and not enlightenment the views of Kabir can be easily shown as a denouncement of Hindu practices.

As mentioned above Guru Arjan Dev was talking from the perspective Sant Kabir whose views we have discussed much earlier here. We know that Sant Kabir continuing in the Ramanandi Sampradaya went further away from the mainstream ritualistic Hinduism and was journeying more towards a SEAMLESS Dharma.

If God be within the mosque, then to whom does this world belong?

ਸੋ ਬ੍ਰਹਮੁ ਬਤਾਇਓ ਗੁਰ ਮਨ ਹੀ ਮਾਹਿ ॥੧॥

I am not a Hindu, nor am I a Muslim.

I wasted my whole life in the city of Shiva;

ਸਾਧਸੰਗਤਿ ਬੈਕੁੰਠੈ ਆਹਿ ॥੪॥੧੦॥

Sadhna (a Muslim butcher) and

Ramarchan Paddati gives more info about his teachings.

Here ਰਾਮੈ is Rama and not just lord. Kabir died chanting the name of Rama DESPITE him not finding any result of penances done in holy cities in his previous birth. Another example to show how much Kabir valued personal devotion to Rama in his own NIRGUN style.

How can people understand You, when they are entranced by Maya? ||1|| Pause ||

Recklessly they display boundless pride while explaining their own aims, they kill cows.

ਬਹੁਤੁ ਬਰਸ ਤਪੁ ਕੀਆ ਕਾਸੀ ॥

Hari is in the East, Allah is in the West.

— Kabir, II.57, Translated by Rabindranath Tagore

The influence of Kabir is significant on Sikhism. The following Bani from Ang 1136 is attributed to GURU ARJAN DEV but if you observe at the end you can see that he was talking in the spirit of Sant Kabir.

You are totally pervading and permeating in all.

One Universal Creator God. By The Grace Of The True Guru:

ਕਾਸੀ ਮਗਹਰ ਸਮ ਬੀਚਾਰੀ ॥

The Sant Sampraday of Sikh panth integrates the warrior spirit of the Nihangs and Khalsa, the service of Seva panth and the renunciation of Udasi/Nirmala saints.

— Kabir, Ramaini 1, Translated by David Lorenzen

I am like a fish out of water,

Let’s see what Gurbani has about Ramanandacharya’s views.

Kabir (a weaver)

There the streams of light flow in all directions, few are the men who can cross to that shore!

We can understand that Kabir despite being in favor of formless worship was very much embedded in the Dharmik fold but always preached in the spirit of the transcendental nature of Brahman to the point that HE LOST THE DISTINCTION BETWEEN HINDU AND MUSLIM.

ਬ੍ਰਹਮ is Brahm i.e the Brahman of vedanta but it gets interpreted as an all-pervading lord god.

Ramanandacharya’s teachings were centered on pure and personal connection with the God Rama and didn’t believe in any kind of formal ritualism. He used the common vernacular language instead of Sanskrit so that everyone could understand.

Bhagat Kabir ji / Raag Gauri / / Guru Granth Sahib ji - Ang 326

Guru Nanak (right) and Bhai Mardana (foreground) with Bhagat Kabir (left). This painting is found in the B-40 Janamsakhi, written and painted in 1733. The painting was made by Alam Chand Raj

ਰਾਮਾਨੰਦ ਸੁਆਮੀ ਰਮਤ ਬ੍ਰਹਮ ॥

Kabir, Ravidas and ultimately the NINE SIKH GURUS are a product of this very Sant Sampraday founded by Ramanandacharya!

How can they kill the mother, whose milk they drink like that of a wet nurse?

ਗਉੜੀ ਕਬੀਰ ਜੀ ਪੰਚਪਦੇ ॥

Wherever I go, I find water and stones.

Where the demi-gods and the munis are unnumbered, where millions of Saraswatis, goddess of music play the vina,

For him Dharma was beyond everything physical including the desire for heaven because was fully into the NIRGUN . The last verse shows that according to him the company of the enlightened Sadhus is heaven which is again a typical teaching of Sanatana Dharma.

ਕੈਸੇ ਬੂਝੈ ਜਬ ਮੋਹਿਆ ਹੈ ਮਾਇਆ ॥੧॥ ਰਹਾਉ ॥

ਹਜ ਕਾਬੈ ਜਾਉ ਨ ਤੀਰਥ ਪੂਜਾ ॥

ਊਹਾਂ ਤਉ ਜਾਈਐ ਜਉ ਈਹਾਂ ਨ ਹੋਇ ॥੨॥

Ramananda accepted disciples without discriminating against anyone by gender, class or caste and they included even people from humble origins like

ਜਬ ਲਗੁ ਮਨਿ ਬੈਕੁੰਠ ਕੀ ਆਸ ॥

Let’s look at the most used verse by McSikhs to show that Sikhs are neither Hindus nor Muslims.

ਸਤਿਗੁਰ ਮੈ ਬਲਿਹਾਰੀ ਤੋਰ ॥

ਰਾਮਾਨੰਦ ਜੀ ਘਰੁ ੧

With inadequate devotion, how can anyone swim across? ||4||

From Guru Granth Sahib ji - Ang 1195

ਕਤ ਜਾਈਐ ਰੇ ਘਰ ਲਾਗੋ ਰੰਗੁ ॥

ਅਬ ਕਹੁ ਰਾਮ ਕਵਨ ਗਤਿ ਮੋਰੀ ॥

ਕਬੀਰ ਨਿਰਗੁਣ ਨਾਮ ਨ ਰੋਸੁ ॥

ਮੁਆ ਕਬੀਰੁ ਰਮਤ ਸ੍ਰੀ ਰਾਮੈ

Raamaanand's Lord and Master is the All-pervading Lord God.

I have taken the One Formless Lord into my heart; I humbly worship Him there. ||3||

Look within your heart, for there you will find both Karim and Ram;

From where did the word Maya come? Isn’t it a typical Vedantic concept discussed profoundly in Advaita? It definitely isn’t a concept pioneered by Kabir or even his teacher Ramanandacharya! It is ultimately from Sanatana Dharma!

That God showed me the Guru, within my own mind. ||1||

I went to God's place, and worshipped Him there.

He who has highest Bhakti of Deva (God), just like his Deva, so for his Guru (teacher),

Kaashi and Magahar - I consider them the same.

ਕਹੁ ਕਬੀਰ ਇਹ ਕਹੀਐ ਕਾਹਿ ॥

ਏਕ ਨਿਰੰਕਾਰ ਲੇ ਰਿਦੈ ਨਮਸਕਾਰਉ ॥੩॥

One day, a desire welled up in my mind.

My consciousness does not go out wandering. My mind has become crippled. ||1|| Pause ||

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Bhakti movement began in South (Tamil Nadu to be precise) and slowly spread to Northern parts of India. This movement was extremely popular because of its simple fundamentals which could be understood by even commonfolk. Vaishnavism, Shaivism etc… were already connecting with commonfolk from a long time and this Bhakti movement reinforced it by making the devotee feel a personal connection with the deity.

I would go there, only if the Lord were not here. ||2||

I left Benares - I had little common sense. ||1|| Pause ||

ਗੁਰ ਪੀਰ ਮਿਲਿ ਖੁਦਿ ਖਸਮੁ ਪਛਾਨਾ ॥੫॥੩॥